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Should Students Practice Autos Right To The Ground
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I think that as a FI you should at least demonstrate an EOL to the PPL student so that they know what it feels and looks like. For the CPL student it's a must, autos to the ground during training and of cause in order to pass the checkride.
The commercial pilot not only has the responsibility over his passengers but also over the aircraft to stay in one piece.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 10:39 pm    Post subject: ChopperHopper Reply with quote

Hi Guys
Its nice to see instructors talking about EOLs! As an active freelance FE i can assure you that it IS required, to take a machine to the ground (if the required minima for the aircraft and flying school is met) if the test is taken with myself. I train CPL pilots and early days encountered the wroth of Fred when he examined students who had not done EOLs to the ground. So what you have to consider is why should we train CPL pilots to a standard that requires EOLs and only train PPL pilots to power recovery? Surely do we not want all to survive and in doing so help to maintain a healthy aircraft? The idea that it may be less important is ludicrous! All should be trained so that an engine off is second nature, no questions just do, then sort, especially in the R22!!!!!!!!!!!!
Safe flying Guys
ps the bit about bending R22s depends on how well YOU have been trained, I fortunately had training from the best in the business and he holds a position on the board of panel examiners and to whom i owed my fruitful career!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doing my PPL I find each time we do Auto's, we are getting closer and closer to the ground. One lesson we did a couple to the ground, I think it was being pointed out to me I can do them, just need the confidence.

I find as the PPL progresses, various things just start to happen. You suddently realise that you can do them, but you cannot think to when the transition came. One week, hovering is dancing all over the place, next week a stable hover.

Autos are the same I guess, very scary to start with. Once you start to realise how to control them, this fades (mostly!).

I feel for the instructors, how on earth do you manage it ?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

we all have our nerves removed as part of the instructor course! Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:08 pm    Post subject: Instructors Reply with quote

Hi all,

Does anybody know the purpose of an Instructor?


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:05 am    Post subject: Re: Instructors Reply with quote

blme wrote:
Hi all,

Does anybody know the purpose of an Instructor?


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We are trainers, our goal is to give good instruction and sufficient practise so that students learn to fly the aircraft proficiently and safely. We don't teach, we help people to learn........
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:27 am    Post subject: Instructors Reply with quote

Hi 412driver,

Good answer.

I have always believed that it is our job to bring the students back alive, so that they can pay.

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