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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeh i've done it too - i loved it in the pool even though it was chilly, would not like to do it for real though - really brings home how panic can kill

don't remember rebreathers although i remember the cool little gas bottles - i was surprised you only get 30 secs, i think i'd use it all up dealing with cold water Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've read as much on this as I can find, so far there is little out there on which to form an opinion as to whether this was a controlled ditch following a technical problem or a successful evacuation following an unintentional ditch.

Plenty of rumour and assumption going into the reporting, but at this stage no eye witness or authoritative statements either way?

May be that the AAIB will issue an early interim report, as has been the case in similar previous instances - but maybe not?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Totally agree with what "the other" Craig said - very little, even in the way of speculation, into the root cause thus far.

Which makes it strange that BP have elected not to use any of the remaining Super Puma's for the moment. Bond have allegedly had them all fully inspected and certified as fit to fly, but BP don't want to use them at the moment! ... unless they know something we don't. Confused
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:42 am    Post subject: Missing Tail Boom Reply with quote

All sources (incl RAF) are saying that the Super Puma was definitely sat in the water with no tail. Rumour is that AAIB are suggesting it happened on impact with the water.
Recovery was abandoned last night but the helicopter is overturned and attached to a support vessel.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Craig, Maybe that's more of a PR thing?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:48 am    Post subject: Re: Missing Tail Boom Reply with quote

Old_Bloke wrote:
All sources (incl RAF) are saying that the Super Puma was definitely sat in the water with no tail.


Yeah. I had another look at the IR videos last night, and I really can't tell - I guess people with more experience looking at those images are better at interpreting them than little ol' me.

In any case, in daylight it would obviously be obvious....! Wink Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both the Fuselage and the separate tailboom (containing flight recorder) have been recovered and sent to AAIB at Farnborough.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/article5786690.ece

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/north_east/7906448.stm
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AAIB Bulletin released this morning. Looks like a malfunction of the RadAlt 100 ft warning.

Should one of the pilots not be looking at the altimeter on approach at night though?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rad-Alt malfunction?! Blimey, I had to check it was a heli thread - thought I'd skipped to look at the Turkish crash at Schiphol...!

Two catastrophic rad-alt failures in the space of a week?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was it the radalt or just the warning though?

According to the report, the data from the flight data recorder shows it was reading 1.75 ft when it hit the water.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2ft wave. Smile

Yeah, having now read the report, I can't see a mention of radalt failure, really. Looks sort of like an IMC disorientation thing.... doesn't it?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The "Check Height" call was not given by the aircraft systems, either because it was shagged or it was disabled. But yeah, someone should be looking in, however it's easier siad then done.

Non flying pilot should be giving regular updates whilst flying an radar approach, speed, height, distance and heading, but the incident happened after becoming visual, therefor no requirement for regular updates. But pilot non flying should be giving deviation calls when the aircraft profile deviates from the planned/briefed approach. Usually as non flying pilot you can't see bugger all as the rig/deck is on the other pilots side, so you might as well be looking in until over the deck.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The AAIB have recently published the formal report of the investigation into this accident.


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