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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:22 pm    Post subject: How do you fold yours? Reply with quote

This may be a simple question, but how do you fold your maps to make them easy to use in the air?

I have a nice new mao of S England, but I cannot seem to find a good way to fold it up.

I really need a "map oragami for dummies" guide.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree! Laughing

Mine always ends up in a real mess! I end up wrestling with the thing on the floor. And why is it the route you plan always seems to be just in the wrong place, like on the over folds, so you need to have three hands to use it in the cockpit.

Chart folding lessons would be good. Any tips?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It also attacked me on the drive home. It was rolled up with an elastic band on it, sitting on the front passenger seat in the car.

The band was not too good, ping, unrolling map spreads itself over my side too. They are hard to fight off, I am sure they have a mind of their own. God knows what will happen when I start to draw on it, and make it angry...
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fold it the same way as an OS map, so that it concertinas, and you can reach any part without having more than 9" by 4" open at any one time.

Mike's advice is to put the chart under a phone directory to get it well creased, but I prefer to put them under a pile of GTS manuals as they are the heaviest in the ATPLH training business.

For use in the air, fold to suit for the route needed and snap into place with 'bulldog' clips stolen from work (small size for max power and limited weight penalty - and they don't come loose in the cabin).

If using this approach have a spare 'OS Fold' chart available as well in case of diversions/ emergencies that leave the folder route chart (also a good use for old charts....)

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a guide on how to fold a CAA Chart on the Rochester Airport website. I've not tried it myself, but other sites linking to suggest that it works well.

Whilst looking for this I also came across a video on how to fold a T-Shirt. I would like everyone to practice this over the next couple of weeks so that we can have a competition at the HeliTorque Christmas Do!!!


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:04 pm    Post subject: Map Origami Reply with quote

helicopter-redeye wrote:
Fold it the same way as an OS map, so that it concertinas, and you can reach any part without having more than 9" by 4" open at any one time.

For use in the air, fold to suit for the route needed and snap into place with 'bulldog' clips stolen from work (small size for max power and limited weight penalty - and they don't come loose in the cabin).
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'How to fold a Map' at http://www.catskillhikes.com/mapfold.html
For me: fly using a 1/2 Mil map with an OS print out (from their website) if you are landing at a field site.
Plot your route on the 1/2 mil. Fold along the longest length first leaving about 5-10nm corridor either side of your route (for diversions). Then fold the other 3 sides. If this is still too big fold in half again mid route'ish depending on your turning points. Then bulldog clip in a suitable place.
Then (teaching to suck eggs) write on all your headings and comms so everything is on 1 thing.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:40 pm    Post subject: Ground School Reply with quote

Well, folding a map has been declared harder to do, then flying the copter.

I usually lay it out on the floor and try to fold it in a rectangular shape so that at least the major portion of my route is showing, since it sits on my kneeboard. This way, I can flip it once over and have the rest of the route visible.

US maps may be somewhat different, but ALL maps were not meant to fold nicely, but confuse the heck out of us. Laughing Laughing

Sometimes, making a blowup of the map you need helps.........as long as you have the original with you.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rotorcraig wrote:
Whilst looking for this I also came across a video on how to fold a T-Shirt. I would like everyone to practice this over the next couple of weeks so that we can have a competition at the HeliTorque Christmas Do!!!


Aha saw that one quite a while back now and it is pretty good to do except it's not quite perfect in the way that it folds the t-shirt as there is always a bit left-over that's just not quite right. That said it is really cool.

However what I find even cooler is this machine that you can make from a cardboard box which allows you to fold t-shirts repetitively and much faster - http://www.videojug.com/film/how-to-make-a-t-shirt-folding-machine

That's one I've been meaning to make for ages now. Definitely would like to try it out as I hate folding t-shirts / shirts.

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P.S. For anyone that would prefer an English version of the video above then here you go Wink


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:49 am    Post subject: Ground School Reply with quote

WG,

I guess after we figure out how to fold T-shirts, we can start on your sock drawer, then maybe after that's all done, we can go back to figuring out an easy way to fold maps. Actually, a nice crochet for the seats would be nice.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:22 am    Post subject: Re: Ground School Reply with quote

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WG,

I guess after we figure out how to fold T-shirts, we can start on your sock drawer, then maybe after that's all done, we can go back to figuring out an easy way to fold maps. Actually, a nice crochet for the seats would be nice.

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Wasn't me that started it Wink

Don't even get me started on how to fold fitted sheets then Smile Wink Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Map folding,

I would try and explain how I fold maps but you won't understand, I will demo sometime at a gathering.

Alternatively, draw your route, give it to the cat to play with for 10mins and take the end result to the aircraft with you.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Construct route.
2. Obtain Zen-Like state for half hour, memorise route.
3. Get to aircraft in said Zen state, place map under seat or well out of reach.
4. Fly to destination just using memory and the power of inner self.
5. Land at wrong destination completely. Blame bad Chi.
6. Start at step 1.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm suffering from PMFSS (Poor Map Folding Skills Syndrome) too.

I'm seriously considering getting these three items:

http://www.apple.com/ipad/
http://www.newskyproducts.com/appstation.html
http://www.i-flyte.com/?page_id=1439
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