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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:41 pm    Post subject: Full time job.....and distance learning?? Reply with quote

Im after some advice really....

I could quit my job to go and do ATPL(H) (or CPL(H) when I decide which I want to do)... But I would be very very tight on money and might end up screwing myself into the ground...

That would be by far the easiest way to learn mind you..


If I stick with my job I dont get home until 6:00... I cant imagine I would manage more than 2 hours of meaningfull "study" before I fell asleep...


So how have the rest of you managed to do the home study and keep a balance between work and studying?

How did you find actually learning the stuff? For someone who has been out of education for some time, sitting down and getting on with it could be quite furstrating

I was contemplating trying to go part time at work....but taking a week off at a time to do the week sessions before the exams might not go down too well....

Why cant I just win the lottery dam it!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Working full time and studying is tough but not impossible. I did it whilst working shifts as a Copper.

The study is not technically too demanding. The bigger problem is the sheer volume of stuff you need to learn and the sneaky way some of the exam questions are worded. That said the pre exam groundschool/ brush up courses are very helpful. Try not to fret about the study too much, put in the study time and you'll be fine, and on a modular route you can work at a pace that suits the remainder of your life.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flingingwings wrote:
I did it whilst working shifts as a Copper.


Ok, clue me in. What is a Cooper?
I need to develop my UK language. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

afterburner wrote:
flingingwings wrote:
I did it whilst working shifts as a Copper.


Ok, clue me in. What is a Cooper?
I need to develop my UK language. Laughing
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Copper/Bobby/The Fuzz/Rozers all slang for Police officer
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and a cooper is someone who makes barrels Wink Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And a 'McBad' is someone who enjoys emptying barrels. Cheers!

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Self-study is tough, but the best motivation is thinking about the end result - getting your CPL(H). While I was studying I was working (admittedly for myself, but I was busy nonetheless).

I had to discipline myself. I would work some days and study in the evenings, or I'd study during the day and then work until 10pm some nights to catch up. I just juggled it in every way I could. It took me a year (CPL(H) exams). I split them in the three at a time instead of going 5 and 4, but it worked nicely - I didn't need to do any resits.

What about the weekend? They say the average working person should be able to get through 15 hours study per week - 2 hours per night and 5 hours at the weekend, or however you wish to divide it. Bottom line is, if you can do this great, if you can't it will probably just take you a bit longer but not impossible by any stretch of the imagination.

Hope this helps,

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Appreciate your input....

Its just a little bit worrying starting something and not being able to complete it..

I need to sort my basic maths out first, so hopefully towards the end of Jan I can get started on the CPL stuff Smile cant wait!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
I'm distance learning (ATPL(H)) and working full time. It works ok, but you do need to be very disciplined to ensure you do put the hours in, especially with the likes of Sky Cops, Air Medics, Danger Men all there to distract you, aswell as a very friendly local pub! I am straight out of university aswell so used to studying, but after 4 years doing a Meng in Aero Engineering the last thing I wanted to do was pick up another text book, but you just get on with it.

With regards to basic math skills, I'm sure you would pick these back up as you work through the course, non of it is particulary difficult and plus by the time you have done all the examples and practice questions you will be right back up to speed.

Good Luck with it.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was concerned about the maths before I started the distance learning, but it turned out to be no problem. If I got stuck on something I normally just e-mailed the tutor or looked it up on the internet!

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its not the complex maths that worries me to be honest...

Its the basic mental maths...and very basic times tables...


I can do integration...with a claculator...but I cant do my 7 times tables Razz Thats where I need to improve for example.... and not just for flying...!!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tegwin wrote:
Its not the complex maths that worries me to be honest...

Its the basic mental maths...and very basic times tables...


I can do integration...with a claculator...but I cant do my 7 times tables Razz Thats where I need to improve for example.... and not just for flying...!!


Try this page here :

Vedic Mathematics

There are plenty more on the internet but these are really good to learn. I saw a guy on the net that was teaching 4 year olds to add up exceptionally large numbers but they were being taught to add from the left to the right as opposed to right to left as we usually do. They were exceptionally fast and I wish I could find the site again with the video on as it was a lot lot easier that way I just can't for the life of me remember exactly what to do now Wink

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 10:49 am    Post subject: Re: Full time job.....and distance learning?? Reply with quote

[quote="tegwin"]Im after some advice really....

So how have the rest of you managed to do the home study and keep a balance between work and studying?

I did a distance CPL course with Dragon while working in the Far East.
I use to highlight points in the folders, then type up just my points.
Stuff I couldn't get into my head I use to make up Q&A cards - get some roladex type cards, Question on the front with the Answer on the back.
Take some/all with you where ever you go and keep flicking through.
You look a bit weird but it will soon stick - also good reminders pre exams.

Also for CPL / ATPL spend 50 (when i did it) for the Bristol website question bank. I reckon this got me my high passes (averaged 95%)

Hope this helps

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