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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 2:54 am    Post subject: Are Engineers Paid Enough. Reply with quote

I know the first answer to this always going to be no. But how about qualifiying your statement if thats the case. Engineers put in some long hours in some crappy conditions and some I have spoken to say they deserve more than they get.

How about engineers visiting the forum, or even some pilot members here pass on their thoughts.

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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2005 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Canada I think the pay is fair. If you want to stay at a base and be at home every night you won't make as much as the guy's heading to the bush. The type of aircraft you are working on is the largest factor on what pay you will receive. With the lack of experienced engineers available, company's have been paying the best wages in recent years.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do they pay you a day rate for going out into the field for a few days or is it all the same, whether you are home based or field based.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My log in failed last time when I made the response.
In addition to a monthly salary, the company pays an additional $70 day away from base south of the Arctic Circle and $90 day above it.
We also include additional pay for additional inspections over a basic 12 per year. (Example: 12 - 100 , 500, 1200 hrs etc.).
The harder you work and stay away the more you make! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well for the fact the engineers are in my view just as if not more important to the operation then the Pilot is, I would say they are massively underpaid.

For the back breaking hours they are putting in and the responsibilities they have and the conditions they have to work in. To cold and windy for my liking.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How could engineers possibly be MORE important to the operation than pilots?

Without the pilot, the engineer has a wonderful lump of aluminum sitting on the ramp NOT generating revenue.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Engineers are an important cog in a wheel Wink Without engineers what would pilots do, without pilots what would engineers do!!

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well Catwoman,

Pilot's can operate without an engineer until an inspection comes due but not much is going to happen for the engineer without a pilot.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not downgrading the importance of engineers. They are vital to the operation. I'm just putting things into pespective. Without pilots there is no aviation.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

engineers can operate without a pilot present, we never fix it while its flying do we? You guys are halfway to the bar before the blades stop turning.
winter overhauls are a prime example. granted, many companies don't want to foot big bills when the aircraft is parked in a snowbank for extended periods, especially if revenue was down earlier. But on the flip side, preventative maintenance (which is a bigger responsibiltiy than scheduled maintenance) would surely put a damper on your ability to fly from inspection to inspection alone.
we all know the longer a bird sits, the more things fail, so in a sense a parked bird is an ever present make work project. Who needs pilots? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But then it's not aviation, it's an Overhaul and Maintenance operation.

Aviation = flying and for that you need a pilot.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i guess i can't argue with that simpleton view.

but to add to your aviation = flying comment, i would like to point out that aviation + pilot + engineer = safe operation.

anything less is just that. You cannot leave out a vital link.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's true Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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We all know the longer a bird sits, the more things fail, so in a sense a parked bird is an ever present make work project.


Yup - the amount of slap (and black coffee) needed the morning after to bring it back to operating condition is phenomenal Cool

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Magseal,

I couldn't agree more about the safety aspect after all someone has to stand by with the fire extinguisher for the starts.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, as an engineer I am paid ??15 an hour for a 40 hour week. Not bad but not brilliant either. I agree that flying is a partnership. I am a flying engineer. I can fly but choose to engineer. I have friends who are pilots and friends who are engineers and we all get on fine as we respect each others capabilities.

One thing to remember though:

Pilots do not get paid more than engineers, they just get paid quicker!!

I will still have a trade I can practice till my dying breath (I hope) wheras there is a cut off age for pilots in the commercial world.

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