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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:35 pm    Post subject: Dressed to kill Reply with quote

I caught an interview with Charlotte Madison on the radio a few days ago and was taken with her explanation of flying the appache. The interview was mainly to promote her new book and I found this link which you may find interesting.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/2889317/How-a-girl-joined-the-worlds-most-exclusive-flying-club.html
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

46 million each for an Apache and 30k an hour to fly one!

Each pilot costs 10 million to train. Flipping heck.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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46 million each for an Apache and 30k an hour to fly one!

Each pilot costs 10 million to train. Flipping heck.


And we moan about the cost of flying an R22! Smile

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, but there's no minigun, or...... other stuff...... on a 22!!! Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yeah, but there's no minigun, or...... other stuff...... on a 22!!! Twisted Evil


But we do have countermeasures! or i suppose you could call them emergancy landing flares... lol
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PilotWolf wrote:
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46 million each for an Apache and 30k an hour to fly one!

Each pilot costs 10 million to train. Flipping heck.


And we moan about the cost of flying an R22! Smile

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The commanders clearly haven't heard that if you can fly an r22 you can fly anything, could save a ton on training costs! Laughing - I'm sure I could fly an Apache... into the ground!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its probably not the flying thats the difficult part, a helicopters a helicopter at the end of the day. A couple of hours and i think being able to do a basic transit wouldn't be too difficult.

Learning to be bozz-eyed and shoot with one eye and fly with another... now thats the skill lol. You'd need major headache tablets after a short flight i should think.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did have it explained to me once as "your are a weapon first and a pilot second" which does conflict with the civilian approach of safety safety safety.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From my small insight into military flight its some of the most challanging and scariest flying you will ever do. And no amount of heli logging in single engines at MAUW will even compare.

Infact one of my friends who flies for WNAA air ambulance now used to fly the MERT Chinook in Iraq and he said its like trying to fly 'this air ambulance' into places the same size, but in the dark looking through a pin hole camera (NVG goggles) whilst being shot at and fixing all the associated failures as bullets go through stuff.

He also said theres so much more pressure to do something, in the civvy world you get pressure from customers to crack on and as the pilot you make a decision whether its safe to go. Over there its basically do as your told or suffer the consequances.

Imagine if you had to be a pilot for the SAS, you get there and the situation isn't as briefed you wan't to abort the drop or whatever, the blokes in the back are going to make you put everything on the line to get the job done just like they do.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I did have it explained to me once as "your are a weapon first and a pilot second" which does conflict with the civilian approach of safety safety safety.


You mean we do it differently???

Daaaaaaaaamn!!! Embarassed
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Learning to be bozz-eyed and shoot with one eye and fly with another... now thats the skill lol. You'd need major headache tablets after a short flight i should think.


In Ed Macy's "Apache" he talks about "Apache headaches", which he used to get every time he flew, and only started to disappear after 18 months of flying it....

He also said training to allow one eye to fly and one eye to shoot means that he can read 2 different pages of a book at the same time, one with each eye.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't believe everything you hear......

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The skill and determination of these men and women is second to none, they really do shed a new light on the phrase (multi tasking). The footage shown is the rescue of a Royal Marine Corporal from a Taliban held position in Afghanistan. The method used was one normally reserved for emergency recovery of air crew.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4GnblYMv1M

Truly outstanding teamwork by all involved. We are indeed very lucky to have these men and women serving in our armed forces. Good luck to you all and keep up the good work I say.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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