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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"I would point out that its in the interest of their safety and mine"
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You're right in that statement, you should also remind them that you're the pilot (PIC on thsoe instructing flights, not them) and if something happens to come through the glass, you'll hopefully be able to maintain control until you get safely to the ground (visor down of course VS only a pair o' sunglasses). I would probably say it a little more PC than that too...

My boss has been using one since he started doing EMS on the side (they paid for half so he got a new lighter helmer). We do photog/video, patrols/inspections, etc. Quite a bit down low.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah sorry Poeman with customers I wouldn't be blunt !!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone seen the damage done by a birdstrike on the windscreen ? The bird comes stright through
If you have you will always wear a helmet !
According to the FAA 32% of heli fatal accidents could have been avoided if the pilot had been wearing a helmet
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wear the helmet and teach the student to wear a helmet. they will follow your lead.........
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A friend of mine almost died in a crash a few years ago. Rolling Eyes After seeing the photos of a helo crash and the remains of his helmet, I bought myself one.Laughing

I did my training as a comm pilot in it, and I wear it in a R22 to a Jetranger, even if I'm only sitting up front as pax. Cool

Better safe than dead and looking down.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wearing a helmet is also going to save your hearing which a lot of people do keep forgetting.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a good point Toby - the other day after 2 hours flying in an R22 I did notice my ears felt as though they were ringing a bit. I can only imagine what having that all day every day would do to your hearing. How do you find the helmets in terms of weight or bulkiness in the cockpit? Would it be practical, for example, to fit into an R22 wearing one?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 7:44 pm    Post subject: Helmets Reply with quote

Hi,

IMHO - If you are flying in an hostile environment wear a helmet: if not don't.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will ask another question here that will give the answer to the first. Which would you prefer to do bang your head on
a.sharp plexiglass / aluminium
b. soft padded interior of an Alpha helmet

The answer is obvious, let alone better hearing in future life and being able to fly into the sun with sunglasses on and tinted visor down and be able to see where you are going
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simon - What would you class as a hostile environment. The reason I pose this question is that a helo pilot could be lifting a load out in the middle of the paddock, now does your comment relate to the type of flying he is doing or the actual physical environment.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

with the exception of my civilian time in Cessnas and Pipers, I've always worn a helmet. Of course, it's not like it was a choice, being in the military. Granted, there are some airframes (mostly the big transport planes) that you'll find David Clarks when not in a combat zone, but fighters and helos, helmets are mandatory. Our helmets are pretty lightweight, not too bulky, and don't present many maneuverability problems; it's the HGU-56 (but green and not white). Granted, when you throw NVGs and a battery pack and counterwieghts, it's a bit heavier, but all in all, not cumbersome at all.



It's a safety thing, like others have said. Plain and simple.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:58 pm    Post subject: Helmets Reply with quote

Hi Ned,

I want all pilots to be safe.

My view is that Pilots who need helmets ( all pilots working in hostile conditions ) should wear them; just in case.

Having flown fixed wing and helios for 35 years - civilian flying in ( none hostile conditions ie - aerial photography at high altitude} none of the crews or instructors I have flown with have requested helmets, so they don't wear them.

Mind you when I ride my motorbike ( 40 years) I will wear my helmet.

So I regard driving as much more dangerous than flying but I respect the fact that other commercial and military pilots have other experiences.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flying Foxy wrote:
I'm still wondering about this one.

As posted earlier - to recreate the scenario must have involved a freak wind gust - is there a report on this accident detailing the circumstances of the strike? The blade at rest (i.e. drooping slightly) is my height PLUS an arm's length above me (I'm 6'4") to get a palm on the blade tip. Rotating surely is a flatter disc so the tips would be higher than at rest.

Sorry for the Instructor and his family, tragedy.

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I'm studing at that school now. What happend was that a helikopter was taxiing by, so the blade flapped up dou too downwash, and the opposite blade flapped down striking him in the head. He lived for a while, but he died after a couple of months do to some infection of some sort.

But he was lucky that lived that long. They said afterwords that havent it been because the EMS chopper is next door, he would't had made it too hospital.

He had 10 000hours ++

All instructors at the school now wears helmets. So do also a lot of the students.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know this is an old post, but it is the most recent in the instructors section (where is everybody?).

In a perfect world we would all be able to wear helmets and flight suits and whatever else would make our time in and around the helicopters safer. However, as an instructor in Arizona, I can tell you that when it gets to mid 40's (115f) and you don't have AC you do not want to be in either a helmet of flight suit. One could even argue that the risk of dehydration and heat stroke would actually make them MORE dangerous in this situation.

You just have to do what works for the world you fly in.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"However, as an instructor in Arizona, I can tell you that when it gets to mid 40's (115f) and you don't have AC you do not want to be in either a helmet or flight suit."


What about the guys that are flying the fire fighting a/c out there? Are they not wearing the gear in the heat? In 1996 I fought fires in California in that type of heat while wearing the helmet, nomex flight suit, boots and a lifejacket. This gear was mandatory!

Dehydration was not a problem when you put the water in as fast as you sweat it out. Wink
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