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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I put a helmet on when i ride dirt bikes,push bikes,skate board.Why not flying a heli?
flight suits, lots of pockets fire retardent,just seems to make sense!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the idea of wearing a helmet to instruct is a no brainer. Your customers don't know what they are doing - that's why they're being taught - and therefore you are exposed to the dangers of head injuries for all the reasons helis can bite you.

It seems the attitude in this country (UK) is that you will scare the customer if you wear a helmet and they don't so therefore you must not. I find that a bit short sighted. When I learned my instructor wore a helmet, told me why and recommended that I bought one myself - sensible. They can also come with all the comforts of ANR, Dark and/or low light visors, lip lights etc. A good investment and something regarding I wish attitudes would change.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi WhirlyBloke,

I presume from your comments that you wear a helmet for instruction. I don't know if you work freelance for various schools or whether you are based at one particular company, but do you ever get any grief from people higher up the food chain about it? I know you a couple of instructors I've spoken to wouldn't even consider wearing a helmet as they are convinced it would scare the students off and upset their school. Personally I think that's pretty daft and I don't feel it should be this way at all. I really would like to wear a helmet when I start instructing, in fact for any type of flying - I'm just curious as to what kind of reaction I'm likely to get if I waltz into work with a shiny new Alpha Eagle on my head!

Do most of your students follow suit and go out and buy one, or do some choose to continue flying with headsets on?

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i know an instructor who used to wear a helmet, he was a BIG guy (tall and round) and to be honest him in an r22 wearing a helmet with a student really didnt fit. a couple of students mentioned they were knocking thire heads on his helmet as well. he was told it would be ok to wear one as long as he provided one for his student - at his own cost. SOME students may buy thier own but a lot are learning on a surprisingly small budget and a new alpha just 'aint cheap!

anyway bloke above didnt stay long, was'surplus to requirements' very quickly and out of the door, there are many others waiting for the job why p155 off the employer?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just noticed I hadn't replied to your comment... how rude of me!

I don't wear a helmet when instructing even though I would prefer to. I am fairly new to the business and am therefore doing what keeps the school happy.

I have had the discussion and have been asked, certainly for TIFs not to wear one. I have inherited some students who have never flown with a person wearing a helmet, so won't with them either.

When I start getting guys form the beginning of their PPLs I'll give it more thought to see if I can introduce it into my flying again.

On a lighter note I did manage to talk my FI instructor into bringing his helmet in for one of my lessons when I was on that course. Two big blokes in a 22, one with a yellow helmet and one with a daglow orange helmet was amusing! Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:39 am    Post subject: Student in Helmets Reply with quote

Hi,

I Have read this thread with great interest as a potential student(still working out where and when) I have been lookin into the idea of wearing a helmet. As a motorcylist I would not even think of riding with out one. When in the Navy(non flyer) I was not allowed in the Helo with out one on. I have seen first hand the damage done to aircraft when hit by birds or landed badly.

Why any one would not want to protect themselves to the fullest I can't think. I just hope where ever I end up training has an enlightend attitude.

Which helmets would you advise?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think helmets might also become necessary attire for wearing in bed, particularly in the East Midlands:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7266136.stm
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup!

We thought it was our cats mis-behaving under the bed yesterday morning. Sometimes they start attacking each other and pulling on the bottom of the bed but it went on for way too long. It really woke us up.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What WhirlyGirl said..... I'd love to wear a helmet.

Have done so throughout my career where my head was at risk. But.... am I going to look a complete tool doing my training wearing a helmet?

I suppose I'll have to guage what the school does and broach the subject as and when...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Who looks a complete tool when the ac is lying on its side and you have thumped your head on something hard. Or you are wearing a seagull that has come through your canopy as happened to a friend !!!
Dont be stupid buy one and wear one, I feel naked if I do not wear one and I am an instructor and examiner. The reality is, it is like buying insurance, with the added bonus you can see where you are going into a low sun due to tinted visor, they also save your hearing due to less background noise.
Most wont buy one because they cost alot if the truth be known.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe we should start a new trend... from now on everyone buys a helmet rather than a new headset. Its gotta be a better way forward, and safer, and you got your sunglasses wherever you go!

THen we won't look like idiots, we could even have a sticker with a slogan to stick on our helmets to show we wern't the only ones following the change!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stickers can damage the integrity of the helmet shell Laughing

I'd like to wear one. I don't get on a horse, go rollerblading or cycling without the right headgear. So it comes down to a) looking a bit paranoid (which I agree is a silly reason not to wear one) b) cost and c) availability. Might also get banned from the flying school for scaring the other students... Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jen wrote:
Stickers can damage the integrity of the helmet shell Laughing

I'd like to wear one. I don't get on a horse, go rollerblading or cycling without the right headgear. So it comes down to a) looking a bit paranoid (which I agree is a silly reason not to wear one) b) cost and c) availability. Might also get banned from the flying school for scaring the other students... Laughing


Same here, no pushbike, horse riding, motorcycling without a helmet for me, seems odd really the entire RAF, NAVY, ARMY all wear helmets when flying plus all police and helimed, yet they are so unpopular for flying outside of those roles.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my instructor wears a helmet, personally i think it makes a heli pilot look serious about their work! Notice how any of the prestigious jobs like EMS or police pilots wear helmets! I think it looks professional and really cool!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeap and saves your head and your hearing! i guess Jen is kinda right,

Problem is cost and availability. I don't know of anywhere?!
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