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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:22 am    Post subject: Q1 : Types of Questions Reply with quote

A question came up in a CPL feedback paper I did yesterday which confused me somewhat. It went like this:

"What is the capital of France" is an example of which kind of question?

a. a limiting question
b. an open question
c. a leading question
d. a closed question


I got it wrong. What do you think the answer should be (it's an HPL question).

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But I could put together an argument for a. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly the same as James T Lowe (I made up my mind before scrolling down)!

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It's funny - often a way of answering these questions is not selecting the right answer but discarding the wrong ones... In this case I could only discard 2 and of the 2 left D seemed to be more likely (to me).

What's the answer then??
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well according to the notes, a closed question is one that can be answered by yes or no... Confused Question

I must be completely stupid - but you can't answer yes OR no to "What is the capital of France". You are correct it's D, but it doesn't make sense according to the definition of a "closed" question.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would interpret a closed question as being one that has just one, very short, correct answer. Simple maths questions, for example, would be closed: "What's four plus seven?".

(My argument for a 'limiting' question - I suppose one could consider 'F' to be the capital of France, too... Wink Rolling Eyes ) (I'll get m'coat.)
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have come to the conclusion it was badly explained in the book. This is what I found as the definition on a website:

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There are two definitions that are used to describe closed questions. A common definition is:

1. A closed question can be answered with either a single word or a short phrase.

Thus 'How old are you?' and 'Where do you live?' are closed questions.


A more limiting definition is:

2. A closed question can be answered with either 'yes' or 'no'.

Thus 'Are you happy?' and 'Is that a knife I see before me?' are closed questions, whilst 'How are you?' and even 'How old are you?' are not, by this definition, closed. This limited definition is also sometimes called a 'yes or no' question, for obvious reasons.

Using closed questions

Closed questions have the following characteristics:

They give you facts.
They are easy to answer.
They are quick to answer.
They keep control of the conversation with the questioner.


So it looks as though there are two types of closed question, and while it only explained the second one in my text book, there was a question on the first one. Sad

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heh - I've just found that website. http://changingminds.org/ That's the rest of my afternoon then... fascinating.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not very helpful when you remember the right answer which turns out to be wrong! Now you've gotten to the bottom of it you can be guaranteed you won't be asked any questions on this subject...

I dont recall reading anything about open and closed questions in my HP&L stuff... You're the only one who's read up on the subject and you got it wrong! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's annoying thing about misleading information - I mean if something is wrong in the book, or not clearly explained, you can end up worse off than what you think the answer is by using your logic!

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this something where you can trust your instincts? I've often found that that principle has held me in good stead. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"What is the capital of France" is a statement, to which my reply would be, "No it isn't, Paris is."

Sorry, but I've just read, "Eats, shoots and leaves," and it makes you very pedantic about punctuation!

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was actually no question mark in the question - so you're right!

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DBChopper wrote:
Sorry, but I've just read, "Eats, shoots and leaves," and it makes you very pedantic about punctuation!


I was a pedant about punctuation before reading Lynn Trusses book Its a great book isnt it

(Theirs no excuse for poor grammar and punctuation is their I mean words dont even look right without punctuation in them Do they You carnt even read sentences properly)

"Two Weeks Notice" still riles me...

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WhirlyGirl, I think you interpreted the definition of a Closed Question incorrectly - it didn't mean the Answer is either Yes or No, it meant, the answer is Yes, or the answer is No. It couldn't be either as one is incorrect.

I hate smart-ass questions cos whatever you say, there will be an argument against. IB's way of looking at it is quite a good one..
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a way of answering these questions is not selecting the right answer but discarding the wrong ones...
and seems to work fairly well for the newer PPL exams (the 4 option ones) although a bit of knowledge is useful too!

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