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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 3:49 pm    Post subject: AOC or NOT Reply with quote

Hi All,

AOC holders operate under very strict rules and regulations that cost a fortune.

Is it true that a non AOC company can lease their helicopter to any other company and then they can employ a commercial pilot to fly it, to carry passengers without AOC requirements?

I have heard recently that this is a loophole that gets around the AOC rules.

Do any of you know if this has been tested?

I would be interested to hear your comments.

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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In essence yes, the hirer becomes the operator and just employs a commercial pilot to fly for them.

You can't charge passengers like you would with an AOC, the hirer is paying for the aircraft.

There are a lot of people doing this around the UK at the moment.

Some people seem to be stretching the legalities of things and will probably ruin it for legit operators.

If you think about it, if this wasn't possible a corporate operator couldn't hire a machine in when theirs was in maintenance without involving an AOC and much higher costs.

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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 6:40 am    Post subject: AOC Reply with quote

Thanks veeany,

We will consider the implications as we operate 8 AOC aircraft, with pilots having Line checks, Base checks, aircraft being audited, Came requirements, Quality audits and Flight Ops Inspections etc,etc
EASA requirements the list goes on it's farcical.

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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Operations Manual (OM)
2. Maintenance Management Exposition/Organization (MME/MOE)
3. Operator's Maintenance Program (OMP)
4. Minimum Equipment List (MEL)
5. Quality Manual (QM) - QA included or separate manual
6. Type Rating Training Manual (TRTM)
7. Flight Safety Manual (FSM)
8. Specific Procedures Manual (SPM)
9. Security Manual (SEC)
10. Ground Operations Manual (GOM)
11. Tech Log Book (TLB ili ATL)
12. Training Manual (Crew, Tech staff, management)

We are just teaching ourself about cold start on AOC....
1.,2.,3.,4.,11., is must, remain can be made on the fly....

BTW any help hands are very welcome Smile
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