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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:03 pm    Post subject: RT Question Reply with quote

Vol 7 of the Air Pilot’s Manual states:
“When transmitting a frequency all six digits must be pronounced. The only exception being where the fifth and sixth numbers are both zeros, in which case only the first four digits will be pronounced.”

The PPL Confuser states:
“If a VHF frequency is published to 3 decimal places, only 2 are ever transmitted. Therefore 125.875 would be transmitted as 125.87"

Which is correct, or more to the point, which is the correct version for the purposes of the PPL(H) RT exam?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What does the CAP 413 state? Let's see...

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1.4.4 All six figures shall be used when identifying frequencies irrespective of whether they are 25kHz or 8.33kHz spaced. Exceptionally, when the final two digits of the frequency are both zero, only the first four digits need be given.



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some examples:

118.175 : One One Eight Decimal One Seven Five
119.250 : One One Nine Decimal Two Five Zero
118.300 : One One Eight Decimal Three
118.000 : One One Eight Decimal Zero

Make sense?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:10 pm    Post subject: yes Reply with quote

Yes it does , thank you WG not my question but the answer was needed by me too Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:18 pm    Post subject: Re: yes Reply with quote

OldRookieCraig wrote:
Yes it does , thank you WG not my question but the answer was needed by me too Very Happy


And then you can pass your RT exam and 'chill out'
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Air Pilot's Manual is correct for now. The confuser was correct a few years ago. Cool

A relatively recent change to accomodate new "8.33kHz" spaced frequencies, and ensure they are clear for all.

(Mind you, I'm yet to see one. Presumably they'd be 118.150 118.158 118.167 118.175 ...!?)
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

James T Lowe wrote:
The Air Pilot's Manual is correct for now. The confuser was correct a few years ago. Cool

A relatively recent change to accomodate new "8.33kHz" spaced frequencies, and ensure they are clear for all.

(Mind you, I'm yet to see one. Presumably they'd be 118.150 118.158 118.167 118.175 ...!?)


correct, Coventry tower, 118.175 or is that 118.17 lol

Such stupid rules, everytime i hear someone when handed over from radar to the tower and they readback 118.17 i always pause because you automatically associate the lack of last digit being read back as an incorrect readback.

My god the RT is going to be so bad, i have bad habbits lol
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent answers, thank you. Now I see why its called the PPL Confuser.

I might have got more of the questions right in the Air Law paper if I hadn't been confused by out-of-date info, but I got a decent pass at the first attempt and that's what matters.

Ah well, back to the studies.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Windswept,

Download the CAP 413 (link above in my first post) to iron out the bad habits - I'm sure there aren't many. Your RT was great today. Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Something to fill the coffee breaks... and practice your R/T

http://www.caa.co.uk/resources/flash/CAA_Phraseology_Quiz.htm

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool quiz. Pity there are only 7 questions. I was quite enjoying that!

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