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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:51 pm    Post subject: RAF helicopter in mountain drama Reply with quote

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RAF helicopter in mountain drama

Efforts to recover a helicopter forced to make an emergency landing after its rotors iced up during a rescue are being hampered by bad weather.

The crew were called out in blizzard conditions in the Cairngorms on Monday night after a climber broke his ankle.

They were forced to walk off the mountain while Cairngorm and Kinloss mountain rescue teams helped the man.

RAF Lossiemouth spokesman Michael Mulford said deteriorating conditions are once again posing problems.

He added that the bad weather could delay the recovery operation.

Mr Mulford earlier described the weather at the time the rescue was carried out as "utterly horrendous".

Deep snow

He said that as the RAF helicopter approached Corrie an Sneachda, at about 1700 GMT, it was buffeted by 60mph winds and the winchman noticed the rotor blades were starting to ice up.

The pilot decided to land at the bottom of the mountain on safety grounds and the five-man Sea King crew started walking to Glenmore Lodge in Cairngorms National Park to arrange transportation.

Meanwhile, the Cairngorm and Kinloss Mountain Rescue Teams had reached the injured man.

They put him on a stretcher and lowered him to the bottom of the corrie before carrying him through deep snow.

Team member Willie Ross told BBC Radio's Good Morning Scotland programme: "It became clear that there was a problem with the flying conditions and the aircraft had to put down, so we continued with our plan to go in on foot with the possibility that we'd have to remove the casualty ourselves.

"It only became apparent as we went in that the weather had in fact deteriorated very, very quickly and at that stage we realised we'd have to evacuate the aircraft crew as well."

The helicopter was guarded overnight by a team from RAF Kinloss.

The mountain rescue teams paid tribute to the "tremendous efforts" the RAF put in when assisting on rescues.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still there on Friday, BBC report
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De-icing kit for RAF helicopter

The RAF is hoping to bring in de-icing equipment on Friday to help retrieve a helicopter stranded in the Cairngorms.

The Sea King from RAF Lossiemouth was forced to make an emergency landing after its rotors iced up while going to the rescue of an injured climber.

The crew abandoned the helicopter in Coire an t-Sneachda on Monday when it got into difficulty during a blizzard.

Bad weather has hampered efforts to clear the aircraft of snow and ice and fly it back to base.


A specialist team from England plans to try to use de-icing equipment on Friday to retrieve the helicopter.

The RAF Kinloss Mountain Rescue Team has set up camp at the scene to guard against trophy hunters or anyone trying to start up the helicopter.

An RAF spokesman said the service was able to provide its usual emergency cover without the aircraft.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Somewhat reminiscent of the film "The Day After Tomorrow", isn't it? Only different. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HI James,

I think mountaineers who go out in obviously dangerous conditions should be made to pay for their rescue.

Send him the bill for all the chaos he has caused.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The RAF Kinloss Mountain Rescue Team has set up camp at the scene to guard against trophy hunters or anyone trying to start up the helicopter.


This is SUCH a sad 'sign of the times' kind if statement. WHY can't people leave things alone? I'd love to take the 300 down to Devon to visit my Mum but if I parked it in the garden on the sea front, I wonder how much of it would be left in the morning if I didn't sleep in it overnight?

If it's not yours, then don't touch. Simple.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's an example of how the public can behave with no consideration for either their own safety, other people's safety or property..and look at the fine against the possible cost for a checkover.

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A TEENAGER who broke into Sheffield airport and tried to fly a helicopter has been grounded... by the law.
Lee Mulcrone, aged 19, was so confident he could fly the R22 chopper he calmly lit a cigarette as he took the controls.
He didn't get very far
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was going to comment on what Mulcrone should have carried on to do - but, political correctness being what it is, I had better 'keep my mouth shut!!' Rolling Eyes Over to you Weekend Warrior Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So damn busy, I haven't had a chance to follow this up:

BBC Report Monday 6th March
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The RAF has managed to fly out a helicopter which became stranded in the Cairngorms due to the winter weather.

The Sea King from RAF Lossiemouth was forced to make an emergency landing after its rotors iced up while going to the rescue of an injured climber.

The crew abandoned the helicopter in Coire an t-Sneachda a week ago when it got into difficulty during a blizzard.

Bad weather had hampered efforts to clear the aircraft of snow and ice but it finally flew back to base on Monday.

Flight Lieutenant Darren French, from RAF Lossiemouth, flew the aircraft on the recovery flight.

He said: "This was a prolonged operation where the weather proved the main factor.

"It was quite incredible that the sun came out in the final hours to add to the efforts of the engineers who were helping us.

"Both engines started first time and after a moment to check out some slight vibration we were on our way.

"There were no problems at all on the flight. We landed with less than 10 minutes of daylight left."

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm quite amazed that he even managed to get the helicopter started properly. Maybe I missed something somewhere but was he actually a trainee pilot or anything?

If not then he is a complete and utter W****** (censored by myself!!!).
It's amazing that he managed to do everything needed to start up the heli without causing some real damage. I hope that he didn't?

Also quite amazing that he didn't either roll the heli if he has never flown one before or got into the air just to come down again just as quickly!!
I know we've probably all seen the quite famous video of a person who had just bought a heli and had never flown before and literally killing the heli.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8261061208297425274&q=helicopter+crash

Pretty sure fire way of killing yourself that is!!

Lesson to be learnt in all of that somewhere I guess?

Well don't have nightmares and we will see you next week!!! Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Huh? Shocked I'm not sure I understand any of what you've just said, WhirlyGuy. Don't think there's anything in those reports to suggest the pilot wasn't trained - I can't even see where you might be questioning that, really. (I'm very ignorant of rank in the RAF - what kind of level is Flight Lieutenant?)

As for next week - err when? Are you joining us on Sunday afterall?

*completely confused* Confused Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he was referring to Flying Foxy's slightly off topic post about that chav trying to steal a helicopter from Sheffield. Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WhirlyGuy,

The guy in that crash video was a fixed wing pilot who thought he could fly a helicopter without any training. lol.

He should count himself lucky he picked a 300. He walked away from it...

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was trying earnestly to remain ON topic by referring to my own post ref so-called "Trophy Hunters" and the need of a guard for the stranded helicopter, hilst making an observation on the stupid idiot (the type of which the guard was posted to deter) who, as an unwanted party did his best to nick a R-22 here in sunny (not) Sheffield.

Clear as mud - oh well. I tried to explain! Confused

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WhirlyGirl wrote:
I think he was referring to Flying Foxy's slightly off topic post about that chav trying to steal a helicopter from Sheffield. Laughing


Ah right. Gotcha. Wink

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Clear as mud - oh well. I tried to explain! Confused


Glad someone did... Cool
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