Joined: Feb 14, 2008 Posts: 888 Location: Stavanger, Norway
Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:52 pm Post subject:
Weather in Central North Sea was sh!t today and has been all week. I got diverted to Kjevik (Kristiansand) after getting within 0.75nm of a rig and not seeing it!!!
Bond Jigsaw from Miller Platform scrambled along with CHC HS SAR from Ekofisk Complex. Most picked up by reascue boat from the ETAP field and 3 winched by helicopter. Appears to be a successful ditching, all crew and pax in liferafts.
I'm not so sure about "no tailboom" on those IR pictures.
(As is the BBC's way these days, I cannot see the images in question, as they insist on embedding video on the news pages, rather than stills... I'm prevented from watching video at work. Therefore, this is from my memory of what I saw on the telly this morning!)
How much heat would be in a tailboom? Would the IR camera to pick it up? I certainly didn't necessarily think the image I was looking at was devoid of tailboom. The cabin windows looked black to me, suggestion comparitive cold - the rotors were visible, because they were silhouetted against the heat from the engines.
Okay, so I might expect some heat in the tail rotor gearbox... maybe the tail rotor and gearbox has become detached? From memory, that's sort of happened before, in a similar area, with much the same result...!
And in any case, if it is missing, and is causal to the accident/incident, then by 'eck, they're very lucky people!! I can't imagine how uncontrollable that aircraft would be, without any kind of tail stabilisation!
I fully imagine as well, that it might be a bit nose heavy without a tail... the pictures I saw showed the heli relatively level!
I'd certainly like to see some daylight pictures to confirm/deny it. _________________ J.
i bet putting the immersion suits on is a right mare for the workers before leaving the rig - everytime they climb onto a heli they have to go through the motions of getting all that gear on... and then something happens like this ditching and i bet they're all so glad they did!
well done to the crew - job done _________________ PPL (H)
If it moves i want a go
Animalsticks it's not too bad. I've been offshore loads. Some manufacturers suits are better than others. The Shark suits are the best, they have a separate thermal insulation garment (TIG) which you put on first. The Heli Hansen suits are horrid though. They have a fleecy lining and sewn in boots and hood. They always stink of sweat as well and you have to put your shoes in a separate bag. Still, when your on your way home from a two or three week trip you'll do anything to get home.
You also used to have to wear a separate lifejacket and rebreather. Now you are issued with a LAPP jacket which conbines the two and is much more comfortable. _________________ PPL(H) R22/R44/206L
Its a bag within the lifejacket. Basically if you know your going under you breathe in, pop a valve and then breathe out into the bag. The new ones also have a small compressed air cylinder which discharges into the bag when it contacts water. It gives you about 30 seconds of air to use in an escape situation.
When you do your offshore survival you get dunked in the HUET wearing one. You have to do it three times. Once where they fully submerge you, once where they fully submerge you and you have to knock out a window and escape and once where they turn you upside down and you have to knock a window out and escape. _________________ PPL(H) R22/R44/206L
When you do your offshore survival you get dunked in the HUET wearing one. You have to do it three times. Once where they fully submerge you, once where they fully submerge you and you have to knock out a window and escape and once where they turn you upside down and you have to knock a window out and escape.[/quote]
Joined: Jul 20, 2004 Posts: 3702 Location: Birmingham, UK
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:39 pm Post subject:
I've done the HUET course at Fleetwood Offshore Survival Centre, just for the experience. I didn't find it scary but I did get disorientated, so much so that I got confused and popped out the wrong side... somehow
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