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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 3:08 pm    Post subject: Teenagers attack air ambulance Reply with quote

Can someone please explain why this happens? I just don't get it.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20100526/thl-teenagers-attack-air-ambulance-d831572.html
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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

String them up by their two veg!

Ofcourse being the UK they will get a day trip to a themepark or something, paid for by the british taxpayer ofcourse (which is a nice reminder of why leaving the UK was a good idea).

When they some day need the help of an HEMS machine they should just leave them, what goes around comes around!

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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Couldn't agree more HH!

I think they should be hunted down, and made part of a nasty incident.

Unfortunately, with the Air Ambulance being damaged they'd have to be left for........ oooh, say a day or two!!!

Scumbags! Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read this the other day, it was tweeted by UK Emergency Aviation @UKEMAV

Totally baffles me why people attack any of our emergency services. Scum bags, absolute scum bags!

I haven't heard how the baby fared though, did the delay aggravate the injuries? If so I hope they take this into account when dealing with them!
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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

May I suggest 100hrs community service cleaning rotor blades (clutch engaged, engine running at full rpm) Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As mentioned on another forum, they should be made to attend the accidents that these guys and girls have to deal with everyday, perhaps it would make them realise what damage and hurt they are causing.

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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I gather alcohol was involved in that incident, which can only have aggravated the situation, but it's absolutely no excuse.

Then one reads about incidents like this very sad fatal bus crash using SIX helicopters (3 Air Ambulance, 3 services) to get critical casualties to hospital; it just makes the point about how important these services are.

For the teenagers in Kent, next time the bus crash could involve you.
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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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... using SIX helicopters (3 Air Ambulance, 3 services) to get critical casualties to hospital; it just makes the point about how important these services are.


Shame they're not considered critical enough for the government to properly fund instead of mainly relying on charity.

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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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... using SIX helicopters (3 Air Ambulance, 3 services) to get critical casualties to hospital; it just makes the point about how important these services are.


Shame they're not considered critical enough for the government to properly fund instead of mainly relying on charity.

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I've always been of the understanding that the Air Ambulance Services prefer to be run by charity as it removes them from red tape and beurocracy.
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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bom, that was my understanding too. Similar to the RNLI.

It is a curious situation though - what happens when one of the charities runs into financial trouble and cannot provide the service? Have charitable donations been affected by recent economic problems?

Also, am I right in thinking that Scottish Air Ambulance services are funded (at least in part) by government?
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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

G-SASA and SASB EC135's in Scotland are NHS funded. I believe this is due to the requirement for urgent transfers from the Western Isles to Inverness etc.

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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately not. having worked for the RNLI the red tape and beurocracy are rife, possibly more so having to justify actions etc to the charity commission.

Also look at the recent scandal surrounding London HEMS... and as said when the charity donations run out unless there is a huge reserve or find sponsorship they will fold. I seem to recall that when the AA reduced their sponsorship many air ambulance charities struggled as they hadn't really budgeted for covering the full cost.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tall building, gun.

enough said.

seriously though at what point does someones civil liberty become endangerment. We don't know the details - however say that child had died as a result; or better yet put your loved one lying at the side of the road hemorrhaging all over the place and unable to get to hospital in time to survive. . . sobering thought. To grab the pilot round the throat makes you wonder what the guy was thinking. poor pilot... well done for not throttling the little shite.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They have both since been released on bail while inquiries continue.


This is what annoys me about this country, they should be locked up and treated like animals as that is clearly how they choose to behave.

They will probably only get a slapped wrist if the CPS even bother to pursue the case.

We will continue to have this sort of incident as long as we pursue this ridiculous so called human rights situation which always puts the human rights of the criminal above those of the people affected by the criminal act.

They should be made to work in an A&E department every night for a year till they get the message, and also pay for the helicopter downtime and engineering cost of inspection, but unfortunately it will never happen in modern day Britain.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I discussed this on, er, "that other forum," but the reason they will have been bailed will be to gain more evidence. It is likely that there will have been a number of witnesses to the incident and it can take time to track them down and take statements. There may even be video footage of the incident. It takes time, but every little extra bit of evidence will help with any prosecution and likely sentence should they be found guilty.

Don't get me wrong, it makes my blood boil as much as anybody's but time taken now to obtain the best possible evidence could pay dividends in the long run. Their being released on bail pending enquiries (assuming they can provide a suitable bail address) is standard practice and there probably wasn't any legal justification for keeping them in custody, sadly.

However, anyone expecting them to be locked in the Tower and the keys thrown away is in for a disappointment. Pity, isn't it? Confused
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