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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:39 pm    Post subject: Which PPL(H) manuals do you recommend? Reply with quote

A question for the instructors out there, or for that matter PPL(H) students who have received such recommendations...

Which books do you recommend your students use for PPL(H) course study? When I did mine Norman Bailey's The Helicopter Pilots' Manual volumes 1 and 2 were the suggested manuals, along with Mr Wigglydonk's wordy tome.

Seeing as I am plodding through the CPL(H) course at the mo with designs on instructing, I though it would be interesting to get hold of whatever books are flavour of the month and remind myself of all the bits I have forgotten or were never told.

Thanks in anticipation Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyclic & Collective by Shawn Coyle.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haggis is spot on.

Wagtendonk I used to think was OK, but I don't like it now, and no disrespect to the man who clearly has an enormous fixed wing teaching background, he is not a helicopter pilot, I personally think that is relevant to the quality of the content.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wagtendonk is over complicated! I had a read through it the other day when I was tidying up boxes in the basement and I still don't understand half his rants. It is confussing as on one topic he will base it on the clock-wise rotor and others the counter clock-wise.

If you read any of Shawns posts on "the other forum" then you will see his style of writing and explaining, very clear.

30 well spent in my opinion!

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have finished reading both volumes of norman b's books, and i found them great and easy for a beginner like me to understand. but there were parts where it felt like or assumed that you know something. and then only explained it a few pages on. haha.

gonna start on wagtendonk as soon as i finished meteorologic and air law. is cyclic and collective still recomended?

(sorry if there is loads of typos but my laptop tooka dive and im typing this on a ps3. painfull!)
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GaviG wrote:


(sorry if there is loads of typos but my laptop tooka dive and im typing this on a ps3. painfull!)


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've just bought cyclic and collective based on that speedy and definitive reply. Best sort of recommendation I think!

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A wise decision! Beats wagtendonk hands down in my opinion.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dammit guys, you couldn't of posted this thread a few weeks ago!!!n haha, I wouldn't of bought Wagtendonk if I new about c&c Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HH - Thanks very much! Came today, only flicked through as yet, but very nice to read, funny too. I think the discussions on the 'art'/non mathematical component are a good touch

GaviG - I've got wagtendonk too, I'm sure if something is unclear in 1 text it'll click in the other - that's what I found throughout uni anyway (not that it was an aerodynamics course or anything fun like that!)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Private Helicopter Pilot Studies by Phil Croucher is a good read too.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got Met Made Simple For Pilots (or words to that effect) by Norman Bailey - definitely worth a punt if Met was black-magic to you.

Also took the plunge yesterday on The Helicopter Pilot's Handbook By Phil Croucher, for post CPL reading. Heard its good, with lots of do's & don'ts for mountain flying, longlining, etc.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:58 am    Post subject: What books for the rest of the sylabus? Reply with quote

I Have cyclic and collective but what books or series of books do you recommend for the rest of the subjects, mett, air law, radio etc.?

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