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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:52 pm    Post subject: Volandia Park and Museum of Flight Reply with quote

Just overthe road from Milan-Malpensa Airport. Well worth the visit. Lots of fixed-wing acraft as well.
























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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like a good place to visit, love the blue nook Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The back of the Chinook is open and you can get right up inside. They stop you sitting in the driving seats with a bit of mesh.

I thought the AW139 was the best looking simulator I had seen for while.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont suppose you know what the tilt rotor is?looks vaguely familiar to the XV-15 tilt rotor
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BA 609
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's right, the one in the museum is a full size mock-up like the ones they have at Farnborough or Le Bourget when they first show an aircraft.
Originally it was intended to be the smaller civil version of the V-22.
The manufacturing/design rights have now been bought by Agusta Westland and it will be called the AW609. It's on their website.
I've seen it flying and it's quite a stunner
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone know why there is a lack of consistency in naming when Bell and Agusta collaborate?

AB139, AB206, BA609

I'm surmising it was negotiated on each project, but I was wondering if there was a different reason?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The A139 project was initiated by Agusta and later, in 1998, Bell and Agusta agreed to establish a joint venture to develop the new aircraft as the BA139. The final agreement was signed in November 1998. In this case Bell was the major shareholder, hence the BA designation. Over the years Agusta became responsible for the development and certification of the helicopter with participation from Bell and therefore the designation became AB139. This lasted for about 50 aircraft when the helicopter became totally Agusta's responsibility and therefore changed again to AW139.

I would think it was the same reasoning behind the BA609 where Bell had the technical lead until recently when it became an Agusta Westland project hence AW609.

I don't know enough aout the differences between the Bell 206 and the AB206 to say why the A designation came first. Is it not just a 'built under licence' but different engines, avionics etc?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most insightful - thank you!

I only know that less than 500 were built by Agusta, and that the availability of parts causes the owners some headaches these days.
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